The Truth About the Water Car Fable


The Truth About the Water Car Fable

Nothing sells like religion in our country. Ranging from the ruling class politicians to the less fortunate lower class, our country is
governed by religious fanaticism with no check and balance on the simple pretext of this being a very sensitive issue. It’s like a
boxing day sale for everyone, everyday. Cheap, buyable and easily accessible to the diverse crowd. Tell people anything in the name of
islam and it sells like hot pancakes simply because everyone themselves are pretty much clueless. All they get to know is what is
fed to them. Now, I believe, science offers strong competition.

 

Only recently, a Mechanical Engineer Agha Waqar Ahmad Khan from Khairpur gave birth to an idea of a car that uses water instead of
gasoline as fuel. This gentleman believes that he has a kit that can be attached to the vehicles engine and using electrolysis he can split
water into its components, hydrogen and oxygen. He says he can then use the Hydrogen gas as fuel for the vehicle making it the much talked about but never achieved perpetual motion device. Sadly, this idea shatters the first law of thermodynamics to the core.

 

First law of thermodynamics states that Energy cannot be created or destroyed. Hydrogen Combustion reaction is exothermic giving off 286kj/mol. To make the reaction go in reverse you have to provide the same amount of energy. Therefore it is IMPOSSIBLE to extract energy from water.The fuel cells that Mr.Agha Waqar talk about is indeed a very old idea and dates back to the 90s.It was originally brought forward by Mr. Stanley Allen Meyer who claimed to have a device called the water fuel cell. Meyer’s claims about his “Water Fuel Cell” and the car that it powered were found to be fraudulent by the Ohio court in 1996.So essentially, not only is this idea, old and plagiarized but most importantly,it doesnt work at all.It CANNOT work.

 

Saddest part is to see engineers and scientists from our country, buying this idea. People like,Dr. Samar Mubarakmand , a so-called
“nuclear physicist”, and a popular figure in the nuclear program, who agrees that it is “feasible” to run cars on water.This leads me to the
only logical conclusion that our country can never even dream of becoming a developed nation.Why? Because our scientists and engineers, people who are responsible for building the future, are educated fools, courtesy of our obsolete education system. No one has a clue about what really is going on. Text book rote learning is all that our institutions have and are instilling in the minds of the generations. Analogy can made with the religious situation in our country.Its just like Us learning to read the Holy Quran but not having the slightest idea about what we are reading.

 

Things need to change and as clichéd as this might sound,we need a better education system. Meanwhile, for those entrepreneurs looking to earn some good cash, it might not be a bad idea to think along religious lines and more recently, just use science. People will buy it

 



Irfan Ahmed Qureshi

A contributor for The News/Geo blogs


  • Guest

    Did you test it?! or are you making assumptions??!?

  • Roshan Akhter Abbasi

    The blogger believes that Dr. Summer Mubarak, and alike, are not even familiar with the Law of Conservation of Energy.

    Secondly, the achievement had been demonstrated practically in front of at least hundreds of people, by an ENGINEER, not by a layman like the blogger. The idea may not prove feasible commercially, but can NOT be declared “IMPOSSIBLE”. Engineer Waqar is not a goof to take his fake idea to a group of top-notch specialists of the field.

    There are hundreds of scientists/engineer, who have 1st time received their degrees in Pakistan; and still earned names in their respective fields. Do you want to know the list of such scholars?

    Thirdly, if anyone believes his/her knowledge is ultimate, the one has certainly to consult a psychiatrist.
    It seems the blogger had got a sort of education in the West, but could not digest it well.

    Learn to appreciate instead of condemning every home-grown idea and don’t be the “Kunwain Ka Maindak”. Galileo was also criticized like that.

    Bravo, Engineer Waqar, and keep it up with your journey ahead.

    Roshan Akhter Abbasi

  • Roshan Akhter Abbasi

    The blogger believes that Dr. Summer Mubarak, and alike, are not even familiar with the Law of Conservation of Energy.

    Secondly, the achievement had been demonstrated practically in front of at least hundreds of people, by an ENGINEER, not by a layman like the blogger. The idea may not prove feasible commercially, but can NOT be declared “IMPOSSIBLE”. Engineer Waqar is not a goof to take his fake idea to a group of top-notch specialists of the field.

    There are hundreds of scientists/engineer, who have 1st time received their degrees in Pakistan; and still earned names in their respective fields. Do you want to know the list of such scholars?

    Thirdly, if anyone believes his/her knowledge is ultimate, the one has certainly to consult a psychiatrist.
    It seems the blogger had got a sort of education in the West, but could not digest it well.

    Learn to appreciate instead of condemning every home-grown idea and don’t be the “Kunwain Ka Maindak”. Galileo was also criticized like that.

    Bravo, Engineer Waqar, and keep it up with your journey of creativity.

    Roshan Akhter Abbasi

    • kamran malik

      roshan abasi i loved what you wrote….this dude is crazy.

    • Hamza

      You, sir, are a genius : D

    • Shaukat Gilani

      With all due respect, the blogger is not lay man my friend. He’s an ENGINEER too!

  • http://twitter.com/shivkum23693834 shiv kumar

    sir, thanks for educating us about the same although we thought the situation would not be so bad . we your neighbor to the east are scared exactly this particular situation because such idiots have a hand on the nuclear button also.

  • imran

    shameless irfan qureshi has to answer now as it is proved that E. waqar ahmad is correct and he proved him self with his idea as truth

    • http://twitter.com/gilani77 Shaukat Gilani

      And where is it proved? Did I miss a breaking news?

  • Reyaz

    Looks like Irfan will not accept anything Not comming from the western media/source.
    He still seems to be in trance of proven obsolete thermodynamics laws!! My be he has only read books written 100 years back. My advise to Irfan is to get some real understanding of things before. Reading ten books does not make you the most learned person in the world.
    Hats off to Waqar. Keep up with the good work. Do not pay a heed to Irfan and the like. Reyaz.

  • umair

    I think we are living in fools paradise. this car is not a car run by water, instead it is an electric car. because for electrolysis you need electrical energy. the energy produced by burning hydrogen will be used to run the car, then how will the batteries charge to break water into hydrogen and oxygen? and if you say that the energy produced by burning the hydrogen will also be used to charge the batteris it is not possible, because according to basic physics you can convert total input energy into output. and last i would say that water is not a raw fuel like petrol and cng.

  • Tahir

    Labeling our Engineers and researchers “Educated Fools”, I doubt if he’s Pakistani by any stretch of imagination???

  • salman

    well…people got hanged when proposed that eart wasnt a straight land but a globe ! ….. and about energy can neither be created nor destroyed…you missed the part that IT CAN BE TRANSFORMED FROM ONE FORM TO ANOTHER ! well that man there is splitting the hydrogen gas…and putting it in a storage under a bubbler….few months back i read a smilar comment from a professor at LUMS and he criticised a person with a smilar idea…that why doesnt he give a proper formal interview with the media ?!…now when he has appeared….just sit relax and watch what the scientists come up with…..you think AGHA wakar is goof ? that if he goofs around the pakistani nation and they would just sit and watch him make fools of everyone ?! noo !

  • kamran malik

    Mr.irfan i think you live in USA and you just think that you are the only educated person on planet earth, even you dont know anything about Dear Mr.samer mubarick and talking against him, good people always appreciate others to think out of the box, people like you can only talk about the shadows that you make in your mind. Go out and learn …even is usa they encourage any idea whatsoeven, because ohio court went against some one means we should just keep our eyes closed from the technology.
    I appreciate any good work anywhere in the world. These experiments means someone is using their knowledge to make this world a better place. By the way dont just sit in your room and see the world and be constructive about things dear.
    Learn what science is- observations plus experiments:) If someone fails does not mean that you gonna win. Failure teaches he who learns from it.So waqar will win,and he has already won. I wish him(waqar) a best of luck. May Allah Help him succeed.

  • http://www.facebook.com/abid.anjum.94 Abid Ali Anjum

    it is 100 percent possible to run car on water..but what that is not possible is that u cant do it without an external source of energy..u need energy to split water into hydrogen and oxygen..and then u can use hydrogen as a feul.. but this hydrogen cannot give you as much energy as much is wasted for purpose of spliting water..if you first use generator or some elecrical source to produce hydrogen from water then u store this hydrogen and then u can run car on this hydrogen..but once your car has used stored hydrogen u once again need more hydrogen..so there is no economic benefit of such device..hydrogen derived from water will prove much more expensive then petrol…so this device is useless….

  • khuram

    ‎Those who believe that Agha challenged all scientists for a critical and technical examination, no scientist or a body of scientists can force him for a technical examination, just request and burden of proof is on Agha not all other scientists:
    “When Waqar was asked by The
    Express Tribune why he did not show up at NUST on Thursday, he said
    that the plan had changed. “The technical examination has now been
    deferred for an unidentified period of time and will not happen soon,”
    he said. When inquired to explain the reason for the deferral, Waqar
    simply hung up the phone.” goo.gl/AhTxi

  • Hamid

    Strongly dis-agree with the language of this article. It has more criticism and less reasoning. It feels that author has all knowledge of science and rest are fools.

    • Saqib

      Yeah Hamid here my stance is not far different from you, I wonder how on earth one can be so harsh without knowing the actual position. As far as the writer is concerned he is just going with one aspect but to him I would suggest let the results reflect……………

  • Natasha Aslam

    we are with Agha Waqar…….and this blogger seems to be hired by Westren agencies as they want to buy this technology from our Hero!!!!!!!!!!!tie tie tie Fishhhhhhhhhhh for Blogger

  • Hamza

    “Remove the coils inside it and place permanent magnet. Just rotate it once and it will continue to rotate forever” wow, really????. We have a genius here : p

  • Asad

    If we can drive a car on water from Lahore to Islamabad, back and forth, I give a dam care what first law of thermodynamics states, you have to understand that science is not static even basic laws of physics will change with time. If he is doing some thing out of the box, you have to interpret how it is happening rather than degrading him.

  • http://www.facebook.com/akbarindubai Muhammad Akbar

    i bleave let them try.

  • Rumman Ahmad

    @roshanakhterabbasi:disqus

    Your response typifies the current mindset of our nation. We
    are so desperate for something good to happen to this country that it has
    completely clouded our judgment. My friend, the scientists that you are
    referring to haven’t validated this “invention”, it still needs
    significant testing to be considered a success and i doubt that it will be. And
    before you start passing judgments against me like you did against Mr. Irfan,
    who wrote a great piece if i might add, please watch yesterday’s edition of
    Kamran Khan’s show to know the opinions of our top scientists on this
    situation. Here’s the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB8nOOWFX3s

    This clearly showcases the opinions of our top scientists and even Dr. Samar
    Mubarak seems to have changed his stance. Agha Waqar’s inability to
    satisfactorily answer Dr. Mubarak’s questions shows that he doesn’t know what
    he is doing.

    And one more thing, avoid passing judgments on others if you don’t know him/her
    personally. The writer has a right to his opinion as do you. A constructive
    argument would have been appreciated I am sure but calling the blogger a
    layman, a “kuwain ka maindak”, criticizing his education and telling
    him he needs a psychiatrist only expose your own shortcomings. And since we are
    on the subject of passing judgments let me pass one on you. I bet if a
    scientist from the west discredited this invention, you would believe him
    wouldn’t you? Lastly i agree new ideas should be appreciated but when the idea
    is as absurd as a water powered car then it should be vehemently negated to
    show the world that our nation isn’t comprised of frauds and idiots.

  • Amin

    I am a normal public and uneducated person. lets see if he claims that he can do it.. so let him do it. Mr waqar you should appreciate his effort. i think you are just a “Mandak of Kuwan” as said before.

  • Jamal

    This article was written by some one who seriously lacks common sense.
    Irfan: You called Dr. Mubarik Samarkand a ‘so-called nuclear physicist’. Are you OK? Dr. Samarkand IS a very competent nuclear scientist. Does he need to prove himself to you personally after being a leading professional in his area of expertise for three decades or so?
    In Lahore, a professor powered a rickshaw with solar panels defying common wisdom. If you follow the news, recently sun powered air crafts have flown successfully around the globe.
    I’ll not worry about some US court declaring the idea fraudelant since US is corporate nation. US courts, as well as political and monetary sysem, is run by big corporations and banks. I am living here for 30 some years, I know how this nation operates.
    Therefore, the idea of powering an engine with water cannot be rubbished unless it cannot be proven. Irfan could not explain how this could not be proven other than making sarcastic comments.

  • pakistani

    please ban Mr. qurashi for writing any blog as he almost prove that he is not at all interested in invention he is only interested in critics.

    i am not sure that if the theory of ENG. waqar is correct but in light of brown gas theory i may be possible.

  • FDR

    The comments here are making me even sadder. Jahil awam jahil mullk.

    • Anonymous

      Why?! When actually another theory by Darwin is being proven….very scientific!

  • Azam

    Mr, Irfan is highly appreciated that he took the notice and justified his view point on a rationale.We should consider the facts, scientific laws, and the already work done on the topic in question.Science doesn’t grow in isolation and just on claims.
    While going through the literature on net especially the work done on the topic reflects that the statements of Waqar Ahmed seems to be plagiarism and HEC is requested to probe the matter.

  • Samar

    Mr. Irfan, I just say
    that the laws you are talking about are not eternal, all laws made by various scientists
    can be changed.

    • flagrating

      laws were never made by scientists my brother, they just discover them but certainly there laws over other laws in different rims. e.g water no matter how hot or boiled but will still put off the fire. You can be very much right that we do not have eternal knowledge but we have been advised wisdom, means knowledge learning, practical experience and last but not least revelations.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Farhan-Qazi/675188968 Farhan Qazi

    It will NOT rotate forever.

  • A Pakistani

    Let’s us test this car by driving it from Lahore to Islamabad and back on the motorway and have the TV channels vans with cameras go along with it and make and relay real time footage. If the car can do that solely with water as fuel. The claim can have a much better impact!

  • Saqib

    I wonder what the hell people are doing the idea is not yet fail it persists somewhere and God forbid if it fails even then we should not discourage the engineer as there is a good thing in every bad thing however bad it may appear. But my folks are challenging the credibility oh it is somewhat like casting the first stone at ur own sake….

  • cameo

    This is just fantastic…Car powered by water.
    All we now need is a flying carpet and a majic lamp and we are ready for the 21st century.

  • Anonymous

    Although my scientific background precludes me from belief of such an invention (as it violates the most fundemental concepts of energy conservation and thermodynamics), that I do find interesting about this is the sociological aspect. Let me say firstly, that I am an American, so my viewpoint may be very different than that of most Pakistanis. However, I do believe that people are fundementally the same, regardless of where they live, or whatever socio-economic condition they are blessed or cursed with. In my mind, this is not a story of fraud or ignorance, but primarily one of hope and pride. Yes, maybe (in my mind, surely) the car is a fraud or an exaggeration, but the story has driven many people to joy and hope. I think the author rightfully compares belief in this “invention” to religion. I say that not to offend the religious, but very religious people tend to believe 100% in their religion and reject 100% all other religions, yet they neither have more nor less worldly proof of either. What they have is family, tradition and community, and that drives their belief. With the water car, there is national pride driving the belief. The joyful thought that one of their own, who isn’t even an elite scientist, has possibly created something that would be one of the greatest inventions of all time. To reject this bring sadness, to accept it brings joy. Maybe believing is lies is sometimes better than truth? Then again, maybe not ;)

  • badri nath bhat

    donot make yourself a laughing stock, world is a global village now , behave like humen beings shed too much of religious colour.

  • jakhrani

    Elvis has left the building . He is so fake I was watching him on Capital talk , Telling lLies that he recieved calls from US , UK and Singapore You could tell that he is lying I mean how could an Anchor can not tell . I am so sorry to say that Sindhi Media stood for him because he is from Sindh that was the reason given by Media of Sindh lol I am from Sindh and Graduate from Mehran .. this Guy is not even an Engineer I mean he is a Diploma holder …… Flash In The Pan

    • rabeel

      Graduation from Mehran does not allow you to curse diploma holders,they always proved themselves better than So called Engineers produced by Pakistani UNiversties

  • lallal

    Janab, if you do a search on google, you will find such systems on sale for 150 dollars. The kit can be easily installed but according to the advertisers the battery is used to separate hydrogen to run the car and when the power in the battery is used up then the car is run on petrol. So, no big deal……
    The Pakistanis are so obsessed with taking short cuts in everything that like Zardari and are blinded by their greed and have no trust or fear of Allah.

  • laloo

    HI, you can buy this system in US for 150 dollars.

  • Abdullah Warsi

    A Bold truth is, that many Theoretical Scientists and Ph.D’s are Jahil Ignorant who attach this invention with the “Law of Conservation of Energy” These Ph.D’s are like that donkey of Noble Quran that is loaded with Books[Quran 62:5}. Agha’s Water-Kit is the greatest invention of mankind history & that invention has no any relation with the law of conservation of energy & Law of thermodynamics.
    Law of Conservation says that energy neither be produced not destroyed but energy can be transformed from one form to other. In Agha’s Kit invention, neither Energy is being CREATED nor DESTROYED; therefore it in no way violates the Law of conservation of Energy or thermodynamics. It is just transforming chemical energy of water into heat energy and then after burning in engine to Mechanical energy. So simply, nothing is changed except that black Petrol has been replaced by White-Petrol[Water}. Black Petrol carries Hydrogen also and White-Petrol Water carries Hydrogen gas also. So any Ph.D or a so called scientists who says, that this inventions violates Law of conservation of Energy for sure he is telling lies to people. The main objection by some these Theoretical useless Ph.Ds is that car battery is unable to sustain the electrical supply to electrolysis unit of that invented KIT because as per these theorists, Energy produced by electrolysis will be less than the energy being consumed by battery and car will not run. But we all have seen that Car is running. That is itself Proof that what Theorists has assumed is incorrect otherwise car MUST NOT RUN but it runs in practice. This is the most important part of this invention. Now this objection of theoretical Ph.Ds seems correct if old conventional technique of electrolysis is used that need too much electric power to proceed. But Agha’s team has invented a new technique of Electrolysis which is core part of this invention. In Agha’s technique, he has used distilled water to make it dialectic between about 20 metallic plates & he put that unit in series RLC circuit that he managed/calculated to operate at resonance level that periodically produce millions of volts, changes plates with distilled water’s dielectric into a very powerful capacitance. In that scenario, Water becomes unable to hold bond between H and OH ions and huge quantity of H & OH gases start to produce. Following video can show u how it works. http://is.gd/vEJETl Because reaction is in resonance so it is now almost self-sustaining. To convert it from “almost self-sustaining” to “100% sustaining” a very little current from car battery is supplied to that gas-producing unit; that current in milliamps is so small that even less than the current that Car Radio uses. Also note that Car battery is always charged by inbuilt electric DC Generator of car in every car when car is running. Therefore in practice this invention will have no any effect on the capacity and life of car battery. It is like mechanical benefit. For example, can one person lift his car with his one hand above ground? Answer is NO. But one person when places Jack between his hand and car, he can now lift car easily. Resonance in RLC circuit is in lieu of that mechanical Jack that lifts car easily.
    Thu this invention does not violates any law of physics but we should also tell truth that Science is not dogma or scripture like Noble Quran that will not change. Science has been falsified many times by its its own new laws over time. Popular Dalton theory about Atom 70 years ago has been fully rejected and falsified by modern Atomic Physics of Today. Also we should know another truth that thu it is good to achieve an Ph.D but a Ph.D is never a license for new inventions. In fact if we study past history, majority of great inventors like Edison were just simple hardworking technicians. This is matter of fact that In Pakistan B.Sc Engineers and Ph.D’s think that how a graduate of Technology can invent? This kind of their thought is based on total nonsense and jealousy. I suggest reader to read following file in which Each step of Agha’s invention is given in detail. This file is an excellent source of info for who has good understanding in engineering physics. To Sum up: That Water-kit of Agha team is indeed the greatest invention of mankind history. It will change whole globe and soon no one will be buying petrol. [Author of this article is in the field of practical Engineering physics from past 45 years].
    http://is.gd/hkaVsb

  • shepz

    lets not be quick to rush to judgement. I am still skeptical:

    they are using DC resonance not (electrolysis) with high voltage DC to produce high energy H+H+O mono-atomic gas which is used in combustion.
    something similar to stanley meyer’s creation but with some adjustments.since still not patented they are not revealing it.
    I will still believe it when i see it !

  • Mechanical Engineer

    Coffee this weekend, on me, for such an awesome piece. Let these buggers blog or whatever, in a few months when the truth comes out they will understand…..and will feel sorry….. What they fail to realize is that the first tube of hydrogen was filled using current from a battery charged from an external source, let them charge their battery from the car itself for the second time, something that is not possible and these laymen would never understand…….. We have a duty to this nation to stop them from blunders and that’s what we will keep on doing, no matter what they comment :)

    save it for a day when the truth comes out and you can post it here in the exact words: “In your face bitches” :P

  • Shepz

    Although it is fathomable. I remain skeptical about the invention:

    One must understand that High Voltage DC Resonance pulses (not electrolysis) are being used to separate water into high powered H H O in monoatomic state. this gas has 4-6 times more energy than H2 and O seperately. It is not traditional Electrolysis.
    This is a recreation of the Stanley Allen Meyer’s pulsed DC resonance work with a twist which they are not revealing because they have not patented the invention as yet.
    Will have to see it to believe it.

    Please don’t generalize an entire nation and its scientists based on one article presenting half truths from opinionated pseudo-intellectuals. News agencies, political parties are often recipients of huge donations from oil companies that would never encourage this kind of research.
    Please recall that in the past 5 scientists working on water powered engines have been murdered.

  • Abdullah Warsi P.E

    Water Car – What is Truth? By Abdullah Warsi P.E — Part 1/2:

    A Bold truth is, that a few theoretical Scientists and Ph.D’s are Jahil Ignorant who attach this invention with the “Law of Conservation of Energy” These Ph.D’s are like that donkey of Noble Quran that is loaded with Books (Quran 62:5). Agha’s Water-Kit is the greatest invention of mankind history & that invention has no any relation with the law of conservation of energy & Law of thermodynamics. Soon a time will come when these a few Jahil theoretical Ph.Ds who are insulting Agha Waqar in “TV SHOWS”, will be hiding their faces from public. Please note that the biggest “Practical Ph.D scientist” of Pakistan A.Q Khan has supported this invention. A Ph.D has good knowledge but he cannot claim that he knows all and his knowledge is complete. COMPLETE KNOWLEDGE IS ONLY with Allah Jalla Aala Aleem-ul-Khabir. If I have not visited Lahore that does not mean that I should claim that Lahore does not exist. Existing our some theoretical Ph.Ds has no ability to understand that greatest Invention of Agha Waqar. But instead of admitting that they do not have ability to understand that new invention; they are yelling on this humble gentleman Agha by declaring him fraud. This is extremely irresponsible attitude. Unless fraud is caught physically in that car; no one has right to announce in TV shows that it is fraud. Ph.D’s know of course many things; YET THEY DO NOT KNOW EVERY THING. Only Allah Aleem-ul-Khabir Knows everything. When Prophet Moses claimed that he was the most learned man of that time; Allah sent him Wahi & said O Moses: This is not correct, I have people on this earth who have even more knowledge than you. He was then advised to travel with Khizer (detail is in Sura Kahaf in Glorious Quran)
    If Albert Einstein, Isaac Newton, & King of Inventors Thomas Edison were alive today, they would had travelled to the house of Agha Waqar in Khairpur Sindh Pakistan to salute Agha Waqar. If “Alfred Nobel” of Sweden could come out of his grave today, he could has suggested “Noble Prize Committee” that please change name of “Nobel Prize” to “Agha Waqar Prize”. Reader should note that king of inventors EDISON who also invented electrical lamp was so poor that he used to sell Newspapers and used to cultivate vegetables in his house, so to sell them in order to pay expenses of his education. A jealous group who is against the invention of Agha Waqar says, how a diploma holder can invent. First of all Agha has Bachelor in Technology B.Tech, Moreover, reader should note that the biggest inventor of history Thomas Edison was a simple technician. He was not B.Engg or Ph.D.

    Please also read Part 2/2 of this message – Thanks

    Water Car – What is Truth? By Abdullah Warsi P.E —— Part 2/2:

    Law of Conservation says that energy neither be produced not destroyed but energy can be transformed from one form to other. In Agha’s Kit invention, neither Energy is being CREATED nor DESTROYED; therefore it in no way violates the Law of conservation of Energy or thermodynamics. It is just transforming chemical energy of water into heat energy and then after burning in engine to Mechanical energy. So simply, nothing is changed except that black Petrol has been replaced by White-Petrol[Water}. Black Petrol carries Hydrogen also and White-Petrol Water carries Hydrogen gas also. So any Ph.D or a so called scientists who says, that this inventions violates Law of conservation of Energy for sure he is telling lies to people. The main objection by some these Theoretical useless Ph.Ds is that car battery is unable to sustain the electrical supply to electrolysis unit of that invented KIT because as per these theorists, Energy produced by electrolysis will be less than the energy being consumed by battery and car will not run. But we all have seen that Car is running. That is itself Proof that what Theorists has assumed is incorrect otherwise car MUST NOT RUN but it runs in practice. This is the most important part of this invention. Now this objection of theoretical Ph.Ds seems correct if old conventional technique of electrolysis is used that need too much electric power to proceed. But Agha’s team has invented a new technique of Electrolysis which is core part of this invention. In Agha’s technique, he has used distilled water to make it dialectic between about 20 metallic plates & he put that unit in series RLC circuit that he managed/calculated to operate at resonance level that periodically produce millions of volts, changes plates with distilled water’s dielectric into a very powerful capacitance. In that scenario, Water becomes unable to hold bond between H and OH ions and huge quantity of H & OH gases start to produce. Following video can show u how it works. http://is.gd/vEJETl Because reaction is in resonance so it is now almost self-sustaining. To convert it from “almost self-sustaining” to “100% sustaining” a very little current from car battery is supplied to that gas-producing unit; that current in milliamps is so small that even less than the current that Car Radio uses.
    Also note that Car battery is always charged by builtin electric DC Generator of car in every car when car is running. Therefore in practice this invention will have no any effect on the capacity and life of car battery. It is like mechanical benefit. For example, can one person lift his car with his one hand above ground? Answer is NO. But one person when places Jack between his hand and car, he can now lift car easily. Resonance in RLC circuit is in lieu of that mechanical Jack that lifts car easily. Another example is pendulum of big wall Clock. Another Example is Swing of girl (In Punjabi Kurree) that she makes after tying rope at the branch of tree. At the beginning, she needs someone to push her in swing [external force] but later she will continue swing herself. Now periodically a little external push is needed to keep her continue. Another Example is big wheel. U need force to move it. But when it is is rotating, u need very little external force to continue its rotation. For new invention also very little current of battery is needed to keep the reaction continue. Besides, there is high probability [to be investigated in future] that periodic pulse of millions volts among metallic plates also can fuse some hydrogen partially that creates so big energy that system will easily sustain. Even if we ignore fusion, so high voltage will increase production of H and OH exponentially from 100 to thousands time more than conventional old style electrolysis which will be more than enough that is needed by Car. Cell size is also a factor in production rate. For example for railway engine or a factory, either more cells or bigger cells will be designed.

    Thu this invention does not violates any law of physics but we should also tell truth that Science is not dogma or scripture like Noble Quran that will not change. Science has been falsified many times by its its own new laws over time. Popular Dalton theory about Atom 70 years ago has been fully rejected and falsified by modern Atomic Physics of Today. Also we should know another truth that thu it is good to achieve an Ph.D but a Ph.D is never a license for new inventions. In fact if we study past history, majority of great inventors like Edison were just simple hardworking technicians. This is matter of fact that In Pakistan B.Sc Engineers and Ph.D’s think that how a graduate of Technology can invent? This kind of their thought is based on total nonsense and jealousy. I suggest reader to read following file in which each step of Agha’s invention is given in detail. This file is an excellent source of info for who has good understanding in engineering physics. To Sum up: That Water-kit of Agha team is indeed the greatest invention of mankind history. It will change whole globe and soon no one will be buying petrol. [Author of this article is in the field of practical Engineering physics from past 45 years].
    http://is.gd/hkaVsb

    Please also read Part 1/2 of this message – Thanks

  • Khalid Khan

    There is no law in Pakistan be it thermodynamics or constitution.

  • Rammy

    People don’t seem to realize that Mr. Agha Waqar Ahmad Khan is a CHEAT. In a more developed country, he would be put behind bars for wasting the time of so many people.

  • Abdullah Warsi P.E

    Respected editor: Please publish this letter so people must know what is
    truth and what is falsehood. I have tried to use soft language as I
    could. But u can edit it if some thing is harsh. Tanks

    Mr. Ata Rehman:

    Ur objection on this invention and ur slandering campaign against this
    invention is ONLY AND ONLY based on your stubbornness, ignorance and
    jealousy. I can prove it as follow that what you have said is nothing
    but a piece of crap that can only expected from a mentally retarded
    beast who is burning in Jealousy:

    1- U said that Agha is running car w/o external source. This is ur lie.
    Water has Hydrogen gas and Petrol has same gas too. In petrol car,
    battery runs fuel pump and in Agha’s car the current that is used for
    fuel pump is used to crack water into gases. So ur slander that it is
    perpetual machine is false and absurd. His new method is new invention and ABSOLUTELY NOT ELECTROLYSIS. U cannot activated electrolysis in distilled water.

    2- U said Agha has no Engineering Degree so he cannot be inventor. This
    your argument is EXTREMELY shameful because It is absolutely not necessary
    to have Ph.D or B.E Engg in order to invent. Your this extremely shameful
    argument can be fully debunked because the biggest inventor of history
    Thomas Edison was neither a Ph.D nor have B.E Engg. This is fact that
    most of great inventors were not well versed in theory of sciences. They
    were just Technicians/Technologists like Agha.

    3- In you TV Shows and in ur articles you have frequently declared Agha a
    Fraud even with out finding any physical fraud in his car that he has
    demonstrated already in front of many people. It is your total moral
    bankruptcy that you are mongering slanders of fraud even w/o Proof against that humble inventor. As
    per Islamic law, You deserve 80 stripes on your back or u bring physical
    Proof of fraud.

    4- At the end of your article, you have said that GOV should give exemplary
    punishment to Agha. This is again your extremely preposterous claim as you
    are suggesting punishment against the greatest inventor of mankind
    history against whom you have no any proof of fraud. In fact Gov must
    give that exemplary punishment to you because it is you and not Agha who is
    misleading people and it is you who has proved himself a big slander monger.

    5- Truth is this, that Agha is not well versed in theory but yet have
    brought mother of all invention. You and your old books have no ability yet
    to understand this invention. This is ABSOLUTELY NOT ELECTROLYSIS but a
    new technique. A liter water has energy equal to millions of KW too if u
    understand what I mean-fusion. You claim that you are Ph.D; yet you do not understand,
    that in distilled water, electrolysis cannot be activated. Your Ph.D must be investigated if it is not bogus. Because Agha
    is not well versed in theory, this is why he wrongly introduced his
    method as electrolysis. IT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT ELECTROLYSIS because battery
    cannot run car through electrolysis.

    6- The biggest proof of TRUTH is practical demonstration of invention in
    front of people which is eye witness through observation. That what Agha
    has already done. If you are unable to understand that invention, that
    does not mean it is fraud but its mean, you have yet no ability to
    understand that invention & so you must educate yourself and updated your old man-made laws and theories as per new invention. Are you Allah? No. Only Allah has complete
    knowledge. A Ph.D know many things YET DO NOT KNOW EVERY THING. In
    Agha’s system, his invention provided trigger for reaction, then that
    reaction is almost self-Sustaining. To change it from “Almost
    Self-Sustaining” to “SUSTAINING”, It need periodical push from car
    battery. But that push is in milliamps and so small that it is less than
    the current that car radio uses. Ata Rehman. I will not yet disclose
    secrets of this invention though I know it fully. I just give u hint and if
    your brain is still young, that will pick it. In his method Agha’s team provides
    trigger to start reaction & after, that reaction can be sustained
    with very very little current from battery. Consider example of Kerosene lamp. You start it once by a little fire; the that works itself. only you have to add kerosene periodically to continue it. In Agha’s Kit is very little current in milli-amps instead of kerosene that you pour in lamp periodically so that lamp should continue its light.

    7- You also claimed that what Agha has done is already been done by many
    in past. Here you have told again 100% lie. In past people has blended gas with
    petrol to reduce cost of Petrol but no one ever succeeded to replace
    petrol 100%by water. Agha is the first person who has done so and his
    invention is clear a TRUTH as is Sun on sky. and u will see it.

  • Anonymous

    Saeed Sb,
    Government money on patenting this particular cersion may not be of value. The debate is not whether cars cn be fuelled by water as source having hydrogen produced by electrolysis aided by the car battery (as that is lready well know) but for how long can the car run without further external energy input.
    If you recall, Mr. Durrani mentioned a tube of hydrogen in his interviews but the source and energy cost of this hydrogen strating reserve in tube is overlooked by lay people which unfortunately, cannot be done in scientific terms. Once that hydrogen in tube is exhauseted, the average car battery aiding hydrogen production from water, will also die put rapidly as the hydrogen that battery helps produce will not be sufficient to power the car and recharge the battery wihout an external source helping – such as say solar panels or some other fuel source (as in hybrids)

  • Anonymous

    Do you believe once the cost of building that storage tank and soar panls is taken into account, the whole thing will remain economically viable to the extnt that the project is commercially exploited on a mass scale?!

  • Anonymous

    Breaking the laws is a common practice by the powerful in Pakistan – so the laws of science being broken is no big thing. Perhaps the government will use the Durrani technology in creating more ‘cheap’ electricity for the country – considering not much has to be imported and something is being had for nothing.

  • Anonymous

    Bhai Sb
    Clowns of the world are upset for their standards have just been lowered – How about using ‘Scientific’ lingo to hurl insults, here are a few courtesy of the net:

    (While turning and walking away) “I refuse to debate with anything that is more than 75% water”
    “You’re acting particularly evolved/unevolved today.”
    “You’re giving your recessive genes a workout I see.”
    “If you I.Q. reaches room temperature, sell !”

  • rabeel

    you are rigt sister

  • aryan

    if all the engineers of pakistan who all are the so called scientists are all jahil because if they knows the physics then they should even reach at the conclusion that which was the thing or fuel through which the car is running.in so many demonstrations they did not even find the thing through which the car is driven by agha waqar.and to all those who says that they knows the law of thermodynamics if you know the law then why you sitting there make a research and invent something if you realy knows the law.i am not in agha’s favour but i am agaist us because no one reach at conclusion even our so called scientists except AQ khan.

  • Azim H Pervez

    Where is Mr Agha now? I think he has become a victim of the harassment by International Oil Mafia just like Stanley Meyer (USA), Ravi (India) or John Searl (UK). Mr Agha is not harvesting OxyHydro gas via old conventional process of Electrolysis, instead he is splitting H2 & O2 molecules through creating high RESONANCE in SS tubes using water as dielectric. At the time of formation of 2 laws of thermodynamics i.e. in 1860s the scientists did’nt had the concept of splitting molecules through resonance using water as non-conductor. Also in those days the essential material SS 317 L was not available being a prime part of water fuel cell. Anyway IF Agha Waqar is a fraud, then till now WHY is it not possible for any CRITIC or Scientist like Atta-ur-Rehman to point out the flaw in his WFC Kit i.e. is he using carbide or a secret cng gas pipe or any other sort of fuel inlet? No proof nor any allegation in his KIT is yet been surfaced on MEDIA instead everyone is wasting their energy on trying to give “fatwahs” based on so-called criminal allegations fabricated on the instructions of International Fossil Oil Cartels. Please for God sake probe into facts.